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Mannatech is Sueing!
« on: June 30, 2006, 08:31:11 AM »

I was just wondering if you have heard about Glycobiotics

International? (http://www.glycomannan.com)  They are the

company that Mannatech is sueing for Patenet infringement. 

Everyone in the glyconutrient industry is saying that they are

going to beat the lawsuit if they have enough resouces to hold

out.  The reason Mannatech is sueing them is that they offer a

thereputic grade glyconutient product called glycomanna that

contains all eight glycos in pure form with no filler at about

half the cost of mannatech.  Not to mention their product is

being used in a clinical oncology study that mannatech was

turned down for. They are not a MLM company so their is no

continued obligation which is nice for those of us who just want

to buy and not sell.  You should include a link to their site.

www.glycomannan.com

BTW - Great job on the website.  Keep up the good work!
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 04:14:57 PM »

The reason Mannatech has filed the lawsuit is because they have been issued a "composition of matter" patent by the US and several other countries.

Mannatech has spent a significant amount of resources in developing this incredible health technology and as evidenced by the issuance of the patent, they are entitled to protect their discovery from other companies who would prefer to borrow their science (r/d) without the expense and sell a product at a reduced price.

Mannatech's Ambrotose has been and is currently being used in many studies around the world with very promising results.

As far as preferring to purchase without the need to sell, their is absolutely NO requirement to sell Mannatech products. Most people who recommend Mannatech products do so out of a desire to help others and share something that has helped them. As always, there will be exceptions to peoples motives, however it is nice to have the option to get your products paid for or generate additional income for recommending a product that has helped you and could benefit others.  Word of mouth advertising is the most effective way to market a new product. I commend Mannatech for not being selfish and allowing those who are doing the work of advertising/educating to be compensated according to their results.

Finally, after reading the US patent which includes all the scientific evidence to support the efficacy and novelty of Mannatech's discovery, it is unlikely that Mannatech will be losing any of these lawsuits against companies that are clearly copying Mannatech's discovery that the human body could benefit from a blend of all 8 dietary sugars (glyconutrients).
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 07:52:23 PM »

I might be wrong, but I don't think so, I believe that it was Tech Medica that Mannatech were taking to court over the supposed copying of the Eight Essential Sugars. Apparently it was discovered that the Mannatech products do NOT contain all the eight essential sugars and in their Ambrotose product there is reported to be up to 75% Rice Powder filler used, so that means that there would not be too much of the actual good stuff in the product, which makes it a very expensive way of buying Rice Powder.

The other two main companies that sell Glyconutrients guarantee that their product does contain the actual eight essential sugars.
They also promise not to use any filler, so it works out that they have a much more effective product to help with your health.

If you do not believe me, Please do a little research yourself, using one of the better search engines, you will be surprised what you can learn about Mannatech and some of their high ranking management team. Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 04:23:57 PM »

You are both right. Mannatech is suing (or has sued) both of the forementioned companies for patent infringement. I have read press releases where courts in the UK, Australia, and the US, have ruled in favor of the patent infringement and shut down small glyconutrient companies that were trying to just copy Mannatech. It is only fair, though, since Mannatech did the research and coined the word 'glyconutrients' and without them, nobody would even know about glyconutrients.

I would guess that any glyconutrient supplement from almost any company, would be beneficial to the body. But there are so many different companies out there, and all of them say that theirs is the best product available. I have seen some companies show unlabeled bar graphs as their 'proof' of research though, or some have a sly play on words, that to the average person would not be easy to catch. And if that wasnt bad enough, actually, all of these companies can say whatever they want, because the nutritional supplement companies are not regulated by the FDA, like the drug industries are.

I even saw that techmedica was quoting Dr. Linus Pauling, as if he had something to do with their supplement.  Dr. Linus Pauling was an amazing man, the only man to ever earn two unshared nobel prizes, but I studied chemistry for years at the same university that Linus Pauling graduated from, and know that he never had anything directly to do with techmedica or their glyconutrient supplement.  You just have to do your research.

My friend is a pharmacist, and so they reference the Physicians Desk Reference (PDR) for nutritional supplements quite often. She brought her book home from work one day to share it with me, since Mannatech was listed in there, and she knew that I use glyconutrients. I was interested to see that there was/is NO OTHER glyconutrient company/manufacturer that is listed in the current PDR. Right next to Pepto-Bismol and Tylenol, are the Mannatech products.

...their Ambrotose product there is reported to be up to 75% Rice Powder filler used,...

Rice starch is essential in order to be able to absorb the glyconutrients. So if a product says that it has just glyconutrients, then your body can not absorb the glyconutrients...and you are wasting your money on expensive bodily waste.

Manufacturers are required to list their ingredients in order of amount used. With Rice Starch being the third ingredient, that would make it mathematically impossible for more than 33% of the product (let alone 75%) to be rice starch.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2006, 10:49:40 AM »

There is a very good reason the Nutrose graph peaks are unlabled except for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8! Mass Spectrometry is worthless for assessing whether the eight sugars are present. (I assume this was the so called "clinical spectrometry test" since it is claimed to have been performed in a Mass Spectrometry Center.) Mass Spectrometry determines the molecular weight of a substance. Mannose, Galactose, and Glucose have identical molecular weights of 180.15, so there is no way that Mass Spectrometry could distinguish between them. N-acetylglucosamine and N-acetylgalactosamine likewise have identical molecular weights of 221.2, so this technique also could not distinguish between them. The other weights are: Fucose 164.15, Xylose 150.13, and N-acetylneuraminic acid 309.27. If you have seen the Nutrose graph you can readily see that these weights bear absolutely no relationship to the values given.

The old saying goes that figures do not lie, but liars can certainly figure. It is not at all difficult for a good chemist to throw together a mixture that will provide any desired spectrographic results, or any other typical chemical assay results. The Purdue Chemistry department had a very embarrassing situation in the 1960s in which they had to rescind a PhD degree already awarded because the student had fudged all "proofs" of his compound synthesis by compounding mixtures which would provide the necessary spectrographic results.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 02:20:34 PM »

Sure Mannatech came out with the tech so they deserve the rewards. Also the 'pending patent' came about on its mechanism not the products. Also this field is big enough for different companies if they pay Mannatech royalty rights. Also one reason that Mannatech was given the patient was because so many leading doctors said it was impossible. There was nothing to it! When the USA Patient Office saw that they had something that no one else saw they got their patent.

Also one reason that it works is because of the word 'synergy.' Mannatech really put allot of study in that field to have the products work like a supercharger, helping the output of the sum. Also you will find that the 8 saccharides(sugars) is old history, that their Ambrotose really has 16 sugars( I count over 23), plus other goodies to helpand works in multiply systems, As I stated in Doc's Theory at Curezone.Com.     

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2006, 03:27:13 PM »

Hello there .  i was looking at glyconutrients and just wanting to know more about it.  I have just come back from Mannaquest 2006 in denver colorado and i met the founder of Mannatech Mr.Sam Caster what a guy.
Well all i can tell you from the testimonials that i have heard i'm surprised more people are not taking these vitamins and minerals ........
check out my website and you will know why if you need more information i would be more then happy to send you free information via mail............. www.mannapages.com/breneddys
It's all about wellness from within .......... There are thousands of doctor's who have been studying this and believe in it ....... check out doctor Carson in detroit............ check out Dr.Reg.Mcdaniel............
those are just a few.

Mannatech has the patent on these products no one else and if you see something from another company make sure you read the label.  Also Mannatech takes the time to put every ounce in the same capsule of what you are suppose to have this way everytime you take your vitamin and minerals you are getting the same amount allllllllllll the time...........
I know that i have my family on it and we are doing GREAT
hope to hear from you soon
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